Why are we talking about Oil and Water?

Some people have asked, "Why are we talking about oil and water together?" over the course of this year-long series. From the water shortage in Atlanta, to the high cost of gasoline, to campaigns against bottled water, we can see that oil and water are both resources under stress, but in different ways. Concerns about scarcity, availability, access, control and cost are common to both oil and water, but manifest in very different ways. Scarcity of water has different - really life-threatening - implications than does scarcity of oil, for example. We'll have a chance throughout this series and on this discussion forum to examine oil and water in terms of what scarcity means for each, what exploitation means for each, what questions we should be asking about each. We'll also take a look at the connections and interdependence between oil and water in the choices we make at the individual, community and global level. What do you think? How are oil and water connected?

Oil and Water

Is there a connection between wealth and availability of clean water? It seems as though most people who live in developing countries do not place as much importance on the quality of drinking water. Is it our job as Americans to go and assist people who do not have safe drinking water?

The easy answer to both

The easy answer to both questions is yes, but determining the responsibility of America in aiding these situations is more difficult.  When the global average daily spenditure is $1 per family and 1 billion people lack access to safe drinking water the issue seems out of our hands.  India and Africa are just a few examples of places where constant food and water shortages plauge the majority.  In my research I found several NGOs such as Global Water and Global Giving take the approach of educating and enabling communities with techonology to sustain for their communties lasting water supplys. These groups are primarily funded by donations and seem to have a positive lasting impact on the communities they help.  Is this the ultimate solution? I dont think so, but it seems that the involvement of the United States will rely on individuals who get involved in such programs.    

I do believe there is a

I do believe there is a connection between money resources and water resources in the aspect that we, as Americans, have a vast supply of drinking water, while those whom are less fortunate do no have access as quick or as formidable to the same kind of water as we do.

Although Americans are looked upon by the rest of the world as spoiled, we do have much consideration and care for those that do not have the same "luxuries." I, along with many others. would love to help provide other nations deemed developing countries with clean drinkable water.

But at the same time, I also believe that these countries must be willing to help themselves and cooperate with aide. America may be a powerful nation, but we cannot force another one to recieve our help if they do not want it. Organizations have been doing a wonderful job and saving many lives for many years, but if we really want to make a major impact we need to make diplomatic discussions and committments.

While we Americans have been born with numerous material items and extremely easy access to clean water, we are not obliged to share that with others. Though we are not required to assist others in water conflicts, I do think that if America is to be respected by the rest of the world we must share the surplus of which we have.

"Vast" Supply?

I have to disagree. Have you not read or heard about what has been going on in the western part of the United States. Much of the western U.S. relies heavily on water sources such as natural aquifers, lakes, and snow runoff from the sierra mountains. However, these water sources are being quickly depleted as we are using far more water than what is naturally replaced. This issue is serious enough that it has lead to the California Water Crisis, laws on how much water can be used by certain areas, and even a pipeline is in the works which will carry fresh water over 2000 miles from the great lakes to California. Sounds like a fairly serious issue to me. Maybe some of that water being sent to help other countries should be saved to help California and the west in their water shortages. Shouldn't we help our own country before we help others?

G.A.F.

As americans it is not our job to go and help people in developing countries secure safe drinking water.  We should not help other countries unless we are able to gain something from helping them. 

well...

not every country in the world has something of value. alot of countires are in areas with little or no resources. what is to happen to those countries? are we to let the just lose all their people from disease from dirty water? if that is what you think i can't imagine the kind of person you are.

Struggling Nation

Being the United States, the richest country in the world, is it our responsibility to aid struggling nations? To me this is not an apropriate question. Many foreign nations may say yes. Whenever they have problems, the first action they will take is turn to the U.S. and ask for help. For years the U.S. has responded generously by sending billions of dollars, food, water, medical supplies, national guard troops, and countless other items overseas to countries in need. But do we ever get anything in return for our generosity and effort. NO. Being one of the world "super powers", I don't see anything wrong with "aiding" another country in need. But do we always need to be the only country giving a helping hand? Do we really need to send aid and supplies for more people than are in need. But to get to the point, NO, it should not be our job to fix the rest of the world's problems. At one time, the U.S. may have been by far the wealthiest country and more than capable of helping anyone in need. However, I think that the U.S. has reached a point in which we are unable to sufficiently help others while still maintaining our own stability. Quite simply, I feel the U.S. needs to stop thinking about the well being of the rest of the world, and start thinking about ourselves for once. Economically we are in danger. We too are becoming a struggling nation. Is anyone reaching out to help us in our time of need? No one is that I am aware of. I don't want the rest of the world to think we are selfish, but the U.S. needs to worry about fixing the problems in the U.S. before it can help anyone else. This may take a while.

The way I see it is that we

The way I see it is that we have en economic problem that will eventually be solved. These nations need clean water to survive. They probably wish they had an economic problem instead of a problem that threatens their lives.

Agreed

Agreed, our government should not be responsible for aiding other countries. Non-profit aid organizations can be promoted by the government, but that is the extent of that

I really do agree. Its not

I really do agree. Its not having a cold heart. Its just trying to help but knowing that we have problems here too that we need to fix and take care of before we help others.

I fell it is not the United

I fell it is not the United State's job to assit those in need but i believe it is what is right and should be done out of the kindness of our HEARTS!!!

It's sort of a moral

It's sort of a moral responsibility, yet if we help them and continue to do so they will become dependant on us for aid whenever they "need" it.

Agreed on dependent

They already do depend on us and feel that it is our "responsibilty" to help them. However we cannot even fix our own problems, which we have a lot of, so how can we help others?

but if we can cut that

but if we can cut that dependence down, why not?

Oil and Water

For your first question, yes, there is a connection between wealth and the availability of clean water. As for the second question, I believe the answer is a complex one...or at least made out to be complex.

Being the current leading super power, I believe we should look out for the less fortunate, similarly as the eldest sibling would for his/her brothers and sisters. However, if the eldest sibling has fallen ill (the US has increasing economical problems) then that sibling needs to recooperate before the sickness travels to the entire family. If such an event has happened, then perhaps we should hand the responsibility to the second oldest (wither that be another super power or religious volunteer communities).

well...

in a perfect world, yes, I agree that each according to their own capacity, should help eachother and vice versa. The reality is though that if given the opportunity others will take advantage of it and not "pay it forward" as they should be obliged to.

Why do we need topic Headings?

Anyway, I think it is important as Americans to assist less fortunate nations to obtain pure drinking water just for the basic fact that it is a necessity for life. Realistically, how far can a developing nation already lacking in some areas, develop further without pure, clean water?

Kuta

"How far can a developing nation already lacking in some areas, develop further without pure, clean water?" 

With a plan, any country, developed or developing, can accomplish anything.  The problem with most developing countries is that they are corrupt; spending money on the wrong neccesities.  If a developing country were to prioritize in a proper way, then they would realize that people of their country would collaborate better and the process of developing would become easier then what they make of it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah DAVID!

Yeah, yeah, yeah DAVID!

Notify? or help?

I do see where you think that is is very important for them to obtain clean water. But why is it out job to help. We should let them know yes. and make them aware of what is going on. but then we should leave it up to them. Because what if in the process we stop losing track of whats going on here. Then what is going to happen.OH and yes we need top headings. They catch peoples attention. Didn't you pay attention in english class. Just like Titles of a paper.

I highly doubt that

I highly doubt that Americans are really going to stop thinking about whats going on in their country and what is happening to them...

Oil and Water

I feel that our government should not have to dote on other countries and first and foremost concerns are our own. That said, philantropic NGO's could be encouraged and offered tax-exempt status to improve others countries driking water. This, way it acts as a third party with little to no interest in the geo-political aspects of thier actions. Acting indepedently of governments assures that there will be no other interests confilcting with those of the altruistic pursuit of providing clean water.

However, the country's intrest in offering pure water to it's citizens is also a factor. Many nations in the world are highly restrictive and authoriatian, and may no allow interlopers whether foregein government, or non-profit NGO. In these cases it is not ours as a nation, nor anyone elses responsibility to force their will upon them, no matter how good the intention.

 

good point.

good point.

Oil and Water

It is not our job as Americans to help these nations out. With the way our economy is we can no longer afford to be the nice guy in the world. I beleive it is more of a moral responsibility and what is now expected out of the U.S. however. Since we have helped out others in the past more people turn to the U.S. in their times of crisis. Unfortunately, we cannot help everyone. Some nations need to learn to do things on their own or they will forever be dependant on the United States. If the water in these countries was that bad the countries would have made it a higher priority. But right now, in developing nations in places like Africa and the Middle East, they put more emphasis on winning elections or religious law. Water is essential for survival, this is fact, yet when a country's people would rather fight with one another over a 51% to 49% election rather than secure their survival, then maybe it is not our responsibility or our job to help out the the people in developing nations. Maybe a theory should be imposed that it is their own problem, and so they will not become dependant on our dollar or our arsenal, we should not help them.

What about all the people

What about all the people who suffer and die from lack of clean water. Did you know that every 8 seconds a child dies from a water related disease? Also About 1.1 billion people, in 2000, lacked access to improved water supply. Over 2.4 billion lacked access to improved sanitation. So should we help these people if we have the ability?

DAVID!

GOOD INFO DAVID!

Water..

Yes, there is a connection between wealth and availbility of clean water. and that is the problem with the developing countries they do not care enough about how clean their water is. While yet their water is probably the only water they have seen and think it makes no difference to them, while others in those delevloping countries think that their water is the main sorce of their problems. It may not be our jobs as Americans to go over there and assist them in their water crisis, but as Americans we can volunteer our time, go over there and help to start to restore their water to clean water. It may have to be more of a boost in how to restore, because it is not like we have the time to help every developing country.

I don't think that

I don't think that developing countries don't care how clean their water is. It costs money to set up water sanitation and delivery systems - money that developing countries often do not have.

Yes, I think there is a

Yes, I think there is a definant connection to wealth ahd clean water. 

I don't believe it is Americas job to assist and help people have clean drinking water.  However, I think we should assist.  Clean water is something that should be available to all, and I think it is very unfortunate that some people don't have access to it.  Even though it may not be our job, we should go above and beyond what we are supposed to do, and that is going to make this world a better place.

So its not our job, but yet

So its not our job, but yet we should still go "above and beyond" to help other countries????

Yes, because if it was our

Yes, because if it was our job, we would have to follow through.  If one day, we couldn't do that, we would be hurting that other nation by not being able to provide like we always have.  If we can help when we can, it can't hurt us.

We need to make sure that we are okay here too!

Why can't we just be like: Hey! this is what  is wrong. This is how to fix it. And then leave it up to them. If they need further advise then we should give it to them. But like I said i don't believe that this is our job.

So you're saying that we

So you're saying that we should start something...and then not follow through??? How would our reputation look then, BOB?!??!

Let me put it this way. 

Let me put it this way.  If you were employed somwhere, and people depended on you to come in and do what you were supposed to do, and then one day you called in sick, you would be hurting that certain business or organization because you aren't doing your job for that day.  However, if you volunteered at a local business or organization, you would be helping out when you could, and you wouldn't be hurting anyone by not being there, only helping out when you could. 

Simply, it isn't Americas job to help out anyone but America, but that doesn't mean we can't do our part, and help out the rest of the world. 

look at it this way.

Well lets look at it this WAY.....if you were volunteering at a local business or organization and they counted on you being there because, you had always been there before...even if you dont "feel" like being there now...wouldnt it not only ruin your reputation but also make you look like hypocrites...

It just seems ironic how in the past we always wanted to help people but now...its as if we dont care. we're all so tired of helping everyone now.

 

i dont think that americans should be saying that we "just cant help people" now. Obviously there has to be a limit but just stopping abruptly seems a bit contradictory.

Bam!!

I'm just saying we shouldn't officialy designated our job and responsibility to help these nations.   We should help out when we can though. If it was our job to help out those nations, and we were ever in a state where we couldn't do that, it would be hurting those nations.  Whereas, if we help when we can, and if a period of time goes by when we can't help they wouldn't be relying on us. 

You must first help yourself before you help others.  We should only take on additional responsibilities if we are 100% sure we can fullfill those duties.  I am not convinced we would be able to.

Agreed

This is a good example and I think you are right on. And to expand on this, America is sick right now and the only country America should be helping right now is America. Our country is in no shape to be giving too much help to other counries right now. We don't have the will nor the money. Our economy is suffering. What we do have should be going to help ourselves first. A good friend once said that you must help yourself before you can sufficiently help others.

it would sort of look like

it would sort of look like it does now I suppose

Personally, I feel that if

Personally, I feel that if the United States has the means to help others obtain cleaner water and it would not go out of our way to help them, then we should help other countries be able to use clean water as well . As a country that is by no means "too worried" about how we get our clean water, it could only be to our benefit to help other nations obtain clean water as well. We live in the 21st century and it is absolutely ridiculous to think of living in a world with others who do not have safe and nourishing water to drink.

Oil and Water!

There is a definite connection between wealth and the availability of clean water. In order to obtain clean water that people feel comfortable and safe drinking, filtering processes must take place.  This can become a very expensive process, making it impossible for some countries to have the advantage of clean drinking water. As Americans, we should take a leadership position to try to assist countries who specifically ask for our help. If our help is not wanted, then we shouldn't push too hard to assist them. However, if we are asked for help, we should take a big step in order to try to accomplish and create a safer and cleaner world.

H2O

Yes, there is a connection between wealth and clean water. Places have to be able to afford the things that purify the water. Developing countries are not really thinking about the purification of the water. They are too busy worrying about the other stuff to develop their country. When people do not pay attention to the bad water, it could cause serious illnesses depending on how bad the water is. To be honest, i really don't know how well the water is here in America. Obviously it has to be okay or you would hear of people dying of it or getting serious illnesses. I do not know exactly if we should help these countries but i do believe that we should bring this to their attention that their health is at risk with unpurified water.